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[Zeta]

As you walk up to the entrance to Tekagi's Tavern, you notice a well lit and easy to read sign. It reads:

"Welcome to Tekagi's Tavern. This is a place to relax after a hard day at work, grab a drink, listen to some music, hang out with friends, and just have a good time. We serve a very wide variety of things that can be found scattered all over Sirius, all in one place. We have everything from Ales, Rums, Vodkas, and the like, to Classic Earth style drinks and mixes. For the ladies, we have a variety of champagnes and wines. For those on duty or looking for a softer drink, we also serve things like some of the best Bretonian and Kusari teas and several drinks made out of the various fruits found on many different planets. We also have a few snack type items, now including apples.

There are a few things that you need to know about this establishment.

• Tekagi's Tavern is a neutral facility. When you walk in the front entrance, leave your grudges on the outside. You will most likely come face to face with people that outside, could be considered your worst enemy.
  
• Check your personal weapons in the lockers by the front door. Each locker is locked and opened by fingerprint. They can also be operated by number code should any species without acceptable bio-signatures come in.
  
• Tekagi's Tavern is protected by state-of-the-art security systems that will detect most, if not all, energy and projectile weapons, and stop them from firing, most likely doing something unpleasant to the would be shooter in the process. The system will also interfere with any slicing, stabbing, shanking, ganking, and most other forms of physical attack.

A few things that are also useful to know:

• Tekagi's Tavern is located on Tanya's Base in the Colorado system, in between the main docking bays and the mall area, which are both close by.
  
• The current tavern operator / bartender is Zeta.
  
• Menus and this notice are available in many languages by request

Thank you for visiting Tekagi's Tavern and we hope that you will make us your stop along the way to relax.

Thank you,
--Zeta"

Just past the sign, the button that opens the main entrance awaits. It says "PRESS TO OPEN" So, go ahead, press it, and enjoy your stay.

[nobodie]

ooc: I really like the idea and section like this had to be established quite some time ago. Few people kind of surprised me by getting involved.
Anyway, looking at posts that came after mine, id like to ask you all for 2 things.

Not to criticise, but to try improve things a bit:

1. Pay attention to details.
I made quite some thinking before replying, so there would be a place for another characters who like to be involved with a possible story rather than simple "Get to the bar take a drink and see what happens".
Its a shame that few things of my RP were already twisted/denied by others, i believe unintentionally. We certainly dont want to destroy rp ideas of other people.

Example:

Nobodie was sitting there alone, at the table, in a black robe he wore over his mixed brown/yellow Corsair suit. He certainly did not want to be exposed"

My character was clearly hiding his identity, despite that, some chosed to ignore it referring to my char as if they knew who he was.
If youd also read my char decription Here, youd know that my current face remains a mystery, atleast to a lawful world. So it was really, impossible to identify my char.

2. Put more thinking / details.
It might take more time, but make RP more advanced and could lead to an interesting story development.

Example:
Zeta made 1/3 of my post worthless by simply placing a radiation filter on the ceiling.
Now what he could do, is to play along with me. Instead of placing the filter, he could have received a warning message, and then contact, perhaps, one of the Hunters that are in the bar to help find the source of danger binding the characters together.

Another important thing is Details. Thoughts, things your char sees and feels, major and minor details make your story more entertaining. Plus, it can add a base for intersection between characters, and that is what we want, isnt it?


Thanks for your attention.

[Zeta]

I apologize, I hadn't really thought that part through. I have a notepad file on my computer with a general bar thing I started long ago on another forum. It's not all posted on here (which is my mistake) but it included a few different sensors, like the radiation filters. The reason for that was it's proximity to several other stations and a black hole looking thing in the system. I hadn't intentionally thought to go out and destroy your story, i promise. If you want a story to take place, please let me know.

My only issue has been that it's a neutral zone with known systems installed that stop weapons fire and general violence that kills the customers. These are in place because honestly, I hate having to drag bodies everywhere all the time, and I could lose my operating license if people keep dying.

but honestly, I do apologize, and if anyone has a way for me to improve, please feel fee to let me know. No, alpha, you can't kill the LSF guys, they are where I get most of my money from

Thanks though.

[S31-Zero-Order]

Okay, I understand that you started the thread, Zeta, but removing nearly 1/3 of my script and throwing in your own edits?! That's simply going too far. I read the regulations, prestory, and all relevant information here in this thread before I posted so I could make sure of what I can and can not do. I do NOT agree with suddenly something happening that keeps me from doing an action and my returning to find my post majorly edited and pulled apart to your liking.

1. I created the bouncer character out of my own design as none had been mentioned beforehand. That being said, I consider him a killable character because #1: he's a minor and insignificant character, #2: he was OUTSIDE the bar where NO security system was mentioned until my post was suddenly edited, and #3: I wanted some substance to my story that fit my character's profile.

2. Suddenly my charge doesn't work because miraculously the ENTIRE station is equipped with it, not just the bar alone? Come on.

3. Had you had a problem with it, I could have got a PM from you and edited my story so that it better suit and fit the scripts. I could have possibly come up with a way to bring him back to life, instead of pitching him into an incinerator. I could have just used it to stun and not kill.


Let's think this through next time before deciding to play God.



On another topic, if there's no possible way to determine something, such as somebody's hidden identity, or (in my case) whether or not a murder had occured, don't play Mr. Omniscient and know the answers to the universe. Come up with a creative way to explain how you know such details or know of such events instead of mentioning them breifly as if they were common knowledge. When someone puts in that they have left no evidence or trace of wrongdoing, or have taken every measure to preserve their identity, don't pull secret information out of your rear. Build up to how you obtain those facts.

[Fleainator]

ooc: My character was clearly hiding his identity, despite that, some chosed to ignore it referring to my char as if they knew who he was.
If youd also read my char decription Here, youd know that my current face remains a mystery, atleast to a lawful world. So it was really, impossible to identify my char.

I saw this, and quickly edited my post, Nobodie. It was an honest mistake on my part, and a result of me not thoroughly reading your post.

As for the business with Zero's most recent post:

1. I created the bouncer character out of my own design as none had been mentioned beforehand. That being said, I consider him a killable character because #1: he's a minor and insignificant character, #2: he was OUTSIDE the bar where NO security system was mentioned until my post was suddenly edited, and #3: I wanted some substance to my story that fit my character's profile.

2. Suddenly my charge doesn't work because miraculously the ENTIRE station is equipped with it, not just the bar alone? Come on.

3. Had you had a problem with it, I could have got a PM from you and edited my story so that it better suit and fit the scripts. I could have possibly come up with a way to bring him back to life, instead of pitching him into an incinerator. I could have just used it to stun and not kill.

What we have here is a classic case of a breakdown in communication and lost messages.

1.) When I read Zero's unedited post, it did seem as though the bouncer he'd killed was, in fact, Zeta's dear friend Jim, so I can understand why that was edited. Zeta did, in fact, have a bouncer, who was targeted by Zero.

2.) I don't know about everyone else, but as per the earlier incident with the Junker and... I think it was Major Malfunction, where the Junker got shot outside of the bar, it was shown then that the security field did extend beyond the reaches of the bar and protect the Junker from being fatally shot. Wouldn't it be silly to have a neutral meeting place where you could kill an enemy at the very moment he left the bar?

3.) I agree in principle, but in this particular situation, I can understand why Zeta would edit your post: The Tavern thread gets a lot of posts, with some of them often following very quickly, one after the other, so Zeta made the edit himself in order to keep certain elements of your post from influencing further posts. I don't think it was anything personal, mate.

[S31-Zero-Order]

No, I don't believe it was anything personal, but it still could have been solved by a simple edit, not hacking my post apart. I felt that by stunning him or knocking him out, it would have still fallen into line with the script. I never made mention of any names or distinguishing features when interacting with the bouncer, so it could have been anyone, not any specific character or person.

Prior to posting, I read here to see what the stipulations were to posting, as I'd said. I found that there was no mention to anything relating to a security system outside the bar. Having one suddenly kick in is a little farfetched, IMHO. No, I don't think it'd be silly at all. In real life, you don't go in a bar and wind up killing someone you dislike in front of everyone. You wait until he leaves, when you're alone with him and there's nothing to save him from your wrath. Besides, when someone leaves the bar, how far would said security field go? Outside the station? Come on.

[Zeta]

If you had read the "about" post, you would have known that this would happen. I chose Tanya's base in Colorado because Colorado is a neutral system. I don't have anything to with outside the station itself, but you tried to take out a bar character inside the stations. Jim sits just inside the bar between two doors. This bar, and in fact the station as far as i'm concerned, will not allow people to kill other people. That's why there are no security personnel around. They aren't needed. Sorry, but if you would have read everything first, it would not have been an issue.

There are aspects of the bar (I'm nerdy enough I have a notepad file from a bar on another server) that I haven't put on here, because it's huge. This details the security system, personnel protection systems, etc. I'm starting to reconsider posting, but that's like giving schematics away.

This part goes for anyone. If I edit your post, it will be in red. I will keep a copy of everything edited in the case you would like it. If I have edited and there haven't been posts after it, feel free to edit it again to your own design, OUTSIDE of things listed elsewhere. I will go through the posts and make sure that everything is understood. I apologize i'm not very good at this, as I took the previous bar over when someone left, and the "rules" were already understood.

Zero, it's nothing against you at all, I did the same to Alpha and Nobodie, but I don't want certain things to happen, as Flea had already pointed out. If this whole bar thing is going to be an issue, then I'll realize I've gotten in over my head. I really enjoy doing this bar thing.

As for the deal with secret identity deal, I already apologized for that, it was the way I had read the post, and I'm working on my RP story type skills now.

[Spirit]

Why are you guys writing stories that have nothing to do with the bar, in this thread please ?

Any chance you guys can make a new topic somewhere for just RP stories ?

They are good, but this is just the wrong place for them.

Zeta, would you be able to make a new topic where these RP stories could be moved to please, so that it can be stuff that goes on outside the tavern ?

Edited by -DD-Zeta, 20 April 2010 - 03:09 AM.
Post moved from bar, sorry spirit.

[S31-Zero-Order]

Per Spirit's concern over the other stories in the TT Tavern, could we possibly expand the parameters to include things outside the bar, rather than having it confined to a single thread with multiple offshoots?

I do agree with you on that Spirit. Could maybe the ones outside the bar be moved to a single separate thread for general posting? It would seem odd if you character stayed in the bar all the years of his life.

[ALPHA_WOLF]

Unless you are a drunk LOL

[Zeta]

I'm off to work, but I will PM Ragman just to make sure that it's OK to do so. I had kinda noticed the stories, not that I have a problem w/ it. You can even link to and from posts in the bar to the side stories or something like that. The reason I'm going to ask Ragman first is that there are already RP forums for different factions listed under Tekagi's Tavern on the main page. I had understood that that's where we would put those.

But I'll have to do that and I'll get back to the bar after work

[S31-Zero-Order]

From what I could tell, those other RP forums were there for general guild use, as in to boast through RP about some kind of victory or event that actually occured on the server to rile up the other factions. CCOF demonstrate that in their pirate guild section. That's how I'd interpreted that anyhow. I could be wrong. But in all honesty, I'd rather just have the posts consolidated into one single thread, rather than have them scattered about on the different RP forums.

Thanks for looking into it, btw.

[nobodie]

Well if youd ask me, id rename Tekagis Tavern section to General RP Forum, as currently what we have is, whole sub-forum made only for two topics on the subject.
So we will have perfect place for RP novels/stories, rp news, logs, chars info and pretty mutch everything else that people dont want to put in Factions RP forums.

Same with -=TopGun=-. Instead of creating another subrofum, Id place that topic in Match Of The Day! section since its all about PVP. Pin it up, while removing all that "SIMPLE THE BEST" old junk topics and you got perfect place for pvp skill school with no need of a whole separate sub section.

[Zeta]

alrighty then, I pm'd Ragman to let him know what the thoughts were on the parts pertaining to the Tavern. If approved I will be moving some stuff around into a side story directory. Also, I've been thinking of a way to better organize some of the stuff I've been thinking of, and I could do that as well while I'm at it. On that note, does anyone have any posts above (or below) that they would like to keep?

Thank you all

[Ragman]

I was on what was going on here and yes I have a few PM's.....

Right...

1 We have just moved the forums to a new location, this is because of load on the main server...
2 McKooter is going to be setting up the new version of the forum shortly where all sections will alter... (for the better)
3 In the mean time I will look at what we have now and try to consolidate some of the forums into one area, as to tidy it up a bit.

Dont know what you guys think about trimming down the sections a bit (nothing to dramatic), but just a thought, after all we all want to find the right place quickly and with ease. If anyone has any serious ideas, then PM me. But Ill make a start on this in the morning.

........Oh and can someone, please find me more hours in the day, I seem to have run out... Ill pay well for them,

Thank you for bringing this subject up, it does mean a lot to myself to make sure that things run smoothly.

Rags

[S31-Zero-Order]

I've already sent Zeta my suggestion on how it can be switched up. However confusing it may be, he could pass the info on to ya. Just let him know if he doesn't already.

Thanks.

[Zeta]

Allrighty, by what seemed like a somewhat popular request, I've moved the stories out of the bar and into the Stories directory. I don't have rights there, so if you need anything done w/ those, let a higher moderator know

Also, here in the next week, I will be doing a little bit of cleaning type stuff. I will save everything that changes will be made too, and the tavern will not be touched.

If anyone want to keep any of the posts in this thread, please let me know, as this will be a thread changing.

Thanks

[Zeta]

Allright. I listened to everyone here, had a couple of PM's, and did what I thought was on par with what was being asked, also considering the changes that were being made to the forums. I've already had one complaint, if anyone else has a complaint, please PM me ASAP and let me know, apparently I've done something wrong that has already forced someone to stop using the Tavern. Until I get the advice I need, I will stop moving all posts temporarily, as much as it will detract from the Tavern I feel. The only editing I ever did and will continue to do is that regarding the "rules" found at the top, which I will be revising a little to make it more clear.

Thank you.

[Zeta]

I got the advice I needed and by what I'm calling a "majority decision" by the people who posted here, I'll go back to moving out the side stories. To make is easier, I hope, I'm going to re-arrange these Tavern Forum and post actual "rules" instead of an entrance sign... I don't know what I hope to accomplish, but we'll see... I'm going to be a little busy this week, but I'll be here when I can.